Moderator: Right. Yeah. It’s a hugely destabilizing impact. I mean, the key relationship I think, is the Ethiopia, Eritrea dynamic essential they’re using Somalia as a set of proxy battlegrounds right now that the two countries Ethiopia and Eritrea were at war, just under a decade ago over that boundary, that common border. That issue has never been resolved despite the intervention of the UN. And now the two countries, you know, number 1 foreign policy aim is to destabilize each other and by any means necessary. And so in Somalia, therefore, you’ve had accusations that Eritrea has been funneling weapons and funding to Al-Shabaab. The links aren’t quite as strong perhaps as have been presented but there’s definitely been a malevolent influence in Somalia from Eritrea. Likewise, Ethiopia funds opposition groups wishing to destabilize the regime in Asmara. So I think you have to take care if policymakers have to adopt the regional approach when they look at Somalia and really see resolving the underlying hostility between the Ethiopia and Eritrea as being a real recourse of what’s going on. In fact, issue can be resolved in any sort of useful way that would have a positive impact throughout the region I think and I don’t know if you go along with that.

Bronwyn: Oh, yeah absolutely. You know, another big regional problem is the flow of refugees out of Somalia and that’s re-hitting Kenya particularly hard, and again, that is really the result of the conflict between the TFG and the Shabaab which I would really post as being kind of an artificial conflict in a sense that there are two sides that probably wouldn’t exist but for these international external pressures. It’s also worth pointing out, you know, another fact that’s very frequently overlooked is that many countries in the region actually benefits significantly from Somalia’s instability and it’s security vacuum. I read a fascinating statistic the other day of Middle Eastern country that I won’t name. Imports 4 saris for every Somali woman in the country basically and I can guarantee to you that Somali women are not buying imported clothing. And what’s happening obviously is that these things are going straight through without any taxes or duties into Kenya. So the Middle East is using it as a way to funnel the goods through East Africa. And Kenya in return is exporting a huge amount of drugs into Somalia. The cut trade produces millions and millions of dollar of revenue for the country. So there are pluses and minuses, I think, regionally to Somalia’s ongoing lack of government. It’s a very complicated picture and it’s hard to just sort of draw fast and hard rules about it.

Audience3: Thank you. Abraham Albadore, formerly with the Foreign Agricultural Service. If you look at the map of Africa, you’ll find out to your amazement that Somalia has a longest coastline in the continent and unfortunately the young people, many of whom are unemployed and reluctant to go into fishery and instead they stay where they are and they resort to piracy, hijacking and other illegal activities. The question is what can be done to encourage them to obtain gainful employment in fishery which will go a long way to solve the employment problem and other problems [IB] problems of Somalia? Thank you.

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