Interviewer:    It’s always there I think.  And I think, you know, the greater you, the region that you’re in and it’s a challenge right now, do you have hope that there will be, you know, there’s a lot of voices speaking right wing far mainly anti diversity, you know, saying there is one Europe and this is how hit looks, but as you have said, diversity is there already and it’s potentially growing it will grow, it will expand; do you that Europe will come out of, you know, this with in a positive way, you know, being growing with this diversity in a positive manner acceptance, tolerance, respect, do you have hope for this for the greater region.

Interviewee:    Yes.  I have hope especially because one should look back, you know, it has been 60 years and so since Europe was a complete failure, a complete disaster.  One could not imagine after the Second World War that this, you know, that this continent, that this region this country would be rebuild that’s, you know, a dialogue could be established and cooperation among this foreign parties.  So, the way that we have made in the past 65 years is a good source of hope where Europe can go and in the future so we need certain degree of patience in doing so.  We have to always encourage positive processes but I would never give up, you know, to raise hopes for Europe or future which would really embrace everybody who is in Europe.  In terms, not only in terms of geography but in terms also of beliefs and religion.

Interviewer:    Right.  Good to hear.  I think we have one more question.

Audience 2:    Ambassador Kirn, thank you very much for enlightening speech.  Just interested concept to having fostering the national identity and trying to be part of some more wider community [IB] and there is we know attempt to establish a new constitution in the Europe wasn’t so successful and I wonder to what extend the national identity was perceived under the [IB] in that response to what extent it affected such response and is it feasible in the near future to have such a constitution?

Interviewee:    Well, we have a Lisbon treaty now and that’s for the time being that’s it.  We have to be realistic when we design our futures steps, but we should not overdo it as I say.  We should now wait and see and work for that how to implement Lisbon treaty.  Lisbon treaty at is at this point of time the possible compromise and consent among all 27 countries and it entails a lot of ingredients to reinforce European union globally but at the same time to maintain the sovereignty of nation’s state within the European union.  So now when Lisbon treaty is still a hot piece of paper in the table, I would not dwell on federative, you know, Europe and this and that this remains, you know, for generations to come.  I don’t know may be it will be in five years, ten years, twenty years, I don’t know; but one should look that EU integration is a process and when you see that span of the process that has been, you know, passed already then you can be confident that this process will continue also in the future.  But we should not overdo it.  We have to strengthen each moment that reflects the common will and consent of all its member states because that means that this building has a strong solid foundations that it will not be shake that it takes into account, interest and concerns of its member states.

Interviewer:    Right.  Please join me in thanking Ambassador Roman Kirn for today’s talk.  Thank you so much sir.  It’s been an honor to speak with you.