I mean if you want to fight this you’ve got to raise the money you’ve got to be able to get your voice out there. You know I mean what I find fascinating is it’s not just a national issue every state is going through different things. So if you’re from California and you look at the way the history is taught there and mandated. And you look at different states that are passing different types of resolutions. That’s a much more interesting tactic in some ways. Whereas the Turks don’t even focus on that they are only focused on one thing. And I think their obsession on that one issue has wasted a lot of time and energy on their part. So for me I’m kind of like it’s a free for all why don’t you get a resolution that talks about how Turkey is great and it’s an open dialog country. Forget about the, make another resolution don’t worry about that resolution make a different resolution. If it’s not that important to you if it shouldn’t be that important to you it has nothing to do with you because it was the Ottomans after all right? I mean to me the easiest tact is I say that happened 100 years ago I didn’t have any culpability let me just reject the empire that we’ve been rejecting for the last 100 years and move on.

Moderator:    let me just make a comment to close this discussion. I am actually less sanguine than you are about the possibility of limiting the damage. Because the as everybody knows most people in this room know the Armenian genocide issue is neuralgic issue in Turkey. It’s not a matter of a [IB] ideology it varies across the spectrum. And I have seen people on the AKP side who are just as upset as people from the [IB] side. I think it’s across the board. I don’t think that Turks would agree and I would defer to attack on this issue. But I don’t think they would agree that this is something that the Ottomans did. Because you know Turkey is the successor state to the Ottoman Empire.

So it’s not going to be easy and I don’t think that it’s going to be that simple to like to limit the damage that to Turkish-American relations that [passes] for Armenian genocide resolution would cause. And having said that, and by the way some of the recommendations that you made now I recall were being made back in 1980s. When Turks were told well yes you need to build your own organizations that they could counter the other side. And in fact in those days Jewish American organizations were very active in helping the Turks to develop their own lobbying on the hill. The unfortunate fall out from the Flotilla incident with regard to this particular is that now as you mention some of Turkey’s strongest proponents in the past have withdrawn support. So it’ll be very difficult to prevent passage of a resolution. I think it would be incumbent on both government on state department and their counterparts in Turkey to have some contingency plans to deal with this. And to try to the extent possible limit the fall out, but that’s I think the best that can be done. Stewart just identify yourself and…

Stewart Schwartz :    Stewart Schwartz Trans Atlantic [IB] on broadcasting. You both talked about change could you both talk about demographic change in Turkey which I assume has been considerable.

Joshua Walker:    Why don’t you go first?

Juliette Tolay:    Sure I’m not sure [again] what context you’re thinking about but…

Person:    Well population growth rate, organization, the structure and population all of which… the ethnic composition Kurdish versus Turkish and there’s undoubtedly have been significant changes over the last few decades.