[I mean] what’s great about what’s happening in Turkey today the Juliette has been referencing I have as well is there is a change. There is a feeling among the Turks that they are confident enough to admit their problems. So yes we have problems but you have problems too, if you want to work with us lets find common interest, lets work on this together. I agree with you, looking at Turkey through this civilization paradigm of kind of you are either with us or against us Huntington’s Class Civilization is exactly the wrong perspective. We need to look at Turkey as a partner what can we work together. America has a lot to offer Turkey and this idea that kind of Turkey would be better off without the EU and doesn’t even need America because its got all these great new friends in the Middle East is very short sided and I think that that’s very dangerous in some ways.

The second point I would make is when Juliette was talking about the EU process and the difficulties, the bottom line is we’ve never seen anything quite like this, the EU process has come to a stand still in other words its still going on great but the problem is America is having problem with Turkey at the same time. In the past, anytime there was problems with the EU America would help patch things up anytime there was a problem with America, European Union would help us with things. Now Turkey is in a position where both are going in a pretty bad direction, and yes there is a lot of brain to be heard in Washington for this, I’ve written many times with myself about the tendency in Washington to demonize Turkey without understanding what’s happening at Turkey. So I think its incumbent on all of us both within this country and in Turkey to try to help kind of cool and balanced heads to prevail and kind of ratchet down the rhetoric and ratchet down the position of politicians or get to the point where now you have to apologize to me otherwise I can’t talk to you, that’s not a good place to be. We need to be able to have discussions and to be able to use the institution links that exist.

Moderator:    Juliette you have any thoughts on this?

Person:    Yeah I would just say I think another aspect of the question was a little bad about you know Turkey to be, used to have this course saying that we are Western, we are modernized, we are kind of the same parts as Europe and the West and because of that you should accept us we should part of everything. Now it has changed a little bit. It is not so much how you know, we did the modernization and everything exactly the same as Europe. It is more kind of rounding a little bit more, we have our own history, we have our own kind of tradition, we have our own values that have incorporated a lot of the, that kind of Western modernization process but we also have something more that not all countries have and this is something that I think Turkey is thinking a lot about and I think it is something that it can bring a lot into the international arena in general in it’s relation with the West. The problem is the West as you were mentioning the EU and the US doesn’t see that. And still kind of wants to see Turkey, is it behaving exactly like us for  the same reason as we do. Instead of looking at it as a separate partner which has its own characteristic, its own deficiency but its also its own value added that there is  something that you might not have in you and you will be able. And I think this is where Turkey needs, and it is already it has improved already a lot but needs to do better job at trying to explain and kind of repeat and repeat again why there are those kind of a different background they are coming with and why this can be a potential, why maybe sometimes its not going to be enough, its not going to be it only it might not be enough but the whole and [IB]… but especially on the whole Iran issue and the sanction and the vote and the agreement they made with Brazil. I think there was a little bit the idea because kind of culturally and historically we are used to deal with Iran we can bring something special that the westerners that we really kind of the opposite side from Iran could not really dialogue in the same way. And I think this was something positive that could have worked. It failed though to kind if convince the EU and the US that there was something here that was valuable. It might not have been enough because indeed know that Iran is playing around and kind of in the last ten years the EU and the US has more experience in dealing with Iran. So there must have been a kind of, there must have been a closer corporation between the two sides. But I think there is something here that Turkey can really bring to the table and need to explain better why it is the case.

Moderator:    Yes next question? Let’s see the lady back there.