Person: [IB] national security project. You have been talking [IB] the point about how it is [IB] identities and who would start with? And your arguing that it’s one of those strategic interest. And in the case of Middle East who [IB] speak a little about whether Turkey kinds of strategic interest in more open societies in the Middle East and whether it’s closer relations with these kind of countries and its policy in zero problems with neighbors and all that will yield any results there. What do you think about that issue?
Person: Hi my name is Christina [IB] United States Commission of International [IB] freedom and my question is to Josh and I’m wondering whether you [IB] said that the US is everywhere to [IB] the Turkish [IB] and also [IB] on kind of it’s relationship with [Brazil]?
Camille: Hi I’m Camille [IB] presentation [IB] my question is for Juliette [IB] I think I’m going to go back to the question of demographic changes. I know you both mentioned demographic changes [IB] but I just couldn’t help but disagree with you when you said about the immigration issues are focused on a country such as Germany or France or other major qualified countries out of EU 27. Though we’re talking about millions and millions numbers of immigrants within their country but also we’re seeing a great range of freedom of movement in the entire EU’s 27 countries. So I was wondering if you could comment in demographic changes or any whether the Turkish [IB] will bring popular facts on social [IB] or economic and [IB] integration and participation within immigrants in those major countries or any where in [IB]? Thank you.
Moderator: Okay did you get all the questions?
Joshua Walker: I got them. Let me tee off with Camille’s question. I mean you put your finger on it. That’s exactly what Turkey’s hoping to do. One of our colleagues actually [IB] who is one of the core authors wrote about kind of Turkey’s democracy promotion or its democracy agenda. What’s interesting is it doesn’t have an agenda. The word democracy does not show up in any of its statements about what it’s trying to do in the Middle East. But when you talk to officials privately, they’re very much aware of what this means. In other words, when Turkey looks to engage all actors, even unsavory actors like Hezbollah, Hamas, other groups that America and the West cannot work with, it’s precisely thinking of this idea, how do we have a more open democratic Middle East?
The fact is Turkey is one of the few kind of indigenous democracies in the region. In other words Turkey’s experience with [Mustafa] [IB] from the founding onward is every much two steps forward one step backwards. Turkey is not a prefect democracy and it’s precisely because it’s not a perfect democracy that is the perfect kind of [interlocker] there… the perfect country to go and work with these other countries. When Turkey sends it’s kind of election officials to Kabul and to Afghanistan and to Pakistan and other places and it sees different forms of corruptions that maybe westerners are less comfortable with, the Turks kind of looks at this and say yeah that looks like what it used to be on the 1960’s for us. And in fact when you look at this other countries the way the perceive turkey, it is a major asset. And so I think that what Turkey is trying to do with it’s engagement with it’s neighborhood in terms of getting to zero trying to figure out a way I mean Turkey’s over all strategic interest in the Middle East is to see a open pluralistic stable environment. That tracks almost identically to the US. The difference is how we do it.