Speaker 1: Thank you very much Karina.  If I may start with the first question [???] to the audience and for the record the Rumi Forum is an institution inspired by Gulen’s ideas and from various other academics who have been told that the Gulen moment is active in hundred or so countries around the world through dialogue centers, schools etc.   Is Gulen movement unique on a global scale and if so what makes it unique?

Speaker 2: This is a very interesting question because we can speak that it is unique in its own because Gulen really promotes his idea and he is one [???] that he feels his own ideas, but it is also not unique because there were lot of other people looking for the same goal of peace and this is great the goals are – positive changes can be [???] from different sides and most important again here is not to speak about uniqueness and what is uniqueness, but speaking how we can unite our goals together and unfortunately I know that there are lot of Gulen movements in places where other people who are doing a lot of [???] I want you to *collaborate and this is a major issue [???] in conflict resolution and peace being done.  I did [???] UN missions and differences between humanitarian approach and social justice approach and we found that people are not just, do not want to do, know what other people are doing, but they compete because they have different goals and this is a major issue.  I do believe that what Gulen movement should do more is to promote self as peace being [???] which brings together other groups, which [???] in this countries.

Speaker 1: Thank you, we can take questions from the floor now. If you have any questions, please raise your hand and of course we encourage that and will give the microphone to you. If you can just wait for the microphone thank you.

Speaker 3: Sure, sure, I am [???] and I do peace building and right now we are very actively engaged in Muslim [???] Philippines, which I have been doing for 9 years especially as developing a model, which from the vantage point, where we succeed it encompasses the humanism, it encompasses not just in terms of the quality of communities where I mean the point that you made about that there is an equal opportunity and there is an equal you of what is at stake for community, whether it is between families, clans, tribes or ethnic and cultural groups, but there is also a stake in the future of the children, which centers around education.  It has to center around education and livelihood so you are building into it, not only the spiritual side, which usually gets [???] over but it is in the practical side, which is whether there is any opportunity for advancement where if you do a survey of the youth, they would say I have no future.  So at 10, 11, 12 years old already they are involved in [???] more affair where they are carrying guns or they are wanting to get revenge for their fathers or their grandfathers and what I see in most of the situations where Gulen movement or Asia-America initiative movements are seen as a threat to the conventional politicians international organizations and especially it does so much of the peace building and development as we put into the hands of the military that have [???] games there is winners there is losers, there is objectives that need to be fulfilled and there is contracts.  So the equity that would go into the community development goes in to the friends of politicians who get the contracts to be able to sustain their own sense of enrichment, which cuts out the local community and it seems that I mean the most difficult thing is that people like Gulen movement, people like what we do, we have just tagged in to maybe 100 different community organizations on a very local level, we are [???] we are not seen as part of the constructive process that would bring people together but we are seen as interfering in the political process, which benefits individuals and friends of individuals that have power and my question would be and very practical, we struggle with this all the time, we run more blacklists, we don’t get government funding, because we are seen as competition and how does Gulen deal with this constant conflict with politicians, military and those local power brokers that see this as a zero some name, not as a collective process of benefit.

Speaker 2: First of all can I ask you who are we, you are referring we.