Interviewee: And of Mr. Sarkozy and his very strong views on this question. But at least it will let us move forward, and then with a reinvigorated push by Turkey for reform, I think we can start to move some of the European public views over the longer term. We are talking about a 10-year process, not a quick process. But I think there is room, but first we must first get over these initial issues in 2009.
Interviewer: So typical of European bureaucracy moves, snail pace.
Interviewee: Very slow.
Interviewer: Yeah.
Interviewee: Very slow.
Interviewer: It’s not just France and Sarkozy though.
Interviewee: No.
Interviewer: The EU members have their own historical relationships with Turkey. For example Austria.
Interviewee: Yes.
Interviewer: Christian Europe versus Muslim Ottomans. British – the Brits are very keen on the Turks joining the EU.
Interviewee: Yes.
Interviewer: So it varies. When you talked about there being a unanimous consent, it makes it so difficult, doesn’t it? Complicated.